Minutes of the Meeting held on Saturday 2nd November 2019 at
The Fieldhead Hotel, Markfield Lane, Markfield LE67 9PS The Following were in attendance
Dave Lee – Chairman Helen Reaney – Secretary Karon Jackson – KCBLO
Kirsty Summerfield – represented Archie Bryden as Lead Health Co-ordinator
Clubs in attendance
Downlands – represented by Jose Martinez acted for the voting of Proposals
East Anglia – Lesley McFadyen
East Midlands – Janet Higgins and Maureen Ward North West – Elaine Norton
Northern Counties – represented by Kirsty Summerfield for some voting
Notts & Derby – Mick Smith
Potteries – Dave McKimm
Southern Counties – Gem Rowe
South Wales – Helen Reaney acted for the voting of Proposals
SBTC – Alan Hedges and Karon Jackson
Western – Martin Grimwood
11 Clubs being represented out of 14 members
Before the meeting starting the Chairman asked for all to be upstanding for a Minutes silence for Julie Kemp Hale who had recently died.
East Anglia have put two proposals forward in the hope that one will be supported in relation to the Breed Specific Film
7.1 EA/2ndd East Midlands (See voting sheet)
That the Breed Specific film for SBTs that the Kennel Club are intending to make should have input from ALL the Breed Clubs whether they are constituent members of the Breed Council or not. Each Breed Club should be offered the opportunity by Breed Council to put forward a representative to take part in the venture. Or
7.2) EA/2ndd Southern Counties (See voting sheet)
That the Breed Specific film for SBTs that the Kennel Club are intending to make should have input from Breed Council constituent Clubs. Each constituent Club should be offered the opportunity by Breed Council to put forward a representative to take part in the venture7.3 EA Proposed/2ndd Potteries (See voting sheet)
Following the replies from the Kennel Club in 2018 about highlighting breed health issues on the Kennel Club website and literature, it would appear none of this has been implemented to date. It is proposed that the Breed Council Secretary.ascertain assurances from the Kennel Club that this will be rectified as soon as possible (note correspondence had been received prior to the meeting from Bill Lambert to the BC Secretary which was forwarded to all the member clubs, a follow up letter would be forwarded in the New Year for an update on any outstanding items)7.4 NWSBTC propose /2ndd SBTC on the amended wording (See voting sheet)
Reference the A3 List (Breed Specialists) Requirements - item b. Proposed to replace the existing clause -
"b. To have judged both sexes at 1 Breed Club Show(s) and 3 Breed Club Supported Entry Shows (Or additional Breed Club Shows)"
Replace with - “To have judged both sexes, at a minimum of either two Breed Club shows or one Breed Club show and three Breed Club Supported Entry shows”.7.5 SBTC propose/2ndd Western (See voting sheet)
The criteria for inclusion on the Breed Council A3 NON-SPECIALIST list to be amended to:
1. To have a minimum of 7 years judging experience in any one breed (to include 5 years in this breed) and have the support of the Breed Council/Club. (KC Policy)
7.6 SBTC Propose/2ndd N&D on amended wording in red (See voting sheet)
The criteria for inclusion on the Breed Council B LIST SPECIALIST AND NON- SPECIALIST:
B LIST (Breed Specialist AND Non-Specialist)
N&D handed out a revised CC rotation to cover 2023 and 2024 and this was discussed and agreed that the Club take it back to their committees for discussion with a view to bringing their own rotation forward as a proposal at the next meeting. N&D would propose the rotation put forward on the next agenda. The rotation would be circulated to all the Club including the non-members for their deliberation. A vote of thanks to Jenny Smith by SBTC and EA.
9. Matters brought forward by delegates for discussion. A general discussion took place following on from the KBLO report. Lower entries in 2019 so far, at the moment the Generals are holding their own and Club are lower, and the Council members have their concerns on what will happen after 2023 when rotation will end. How can we increase entries as all clubs work hard to draw in exhibitors? It was agreed to take back to the clubs and ask for ideas and bring forward. The Western delegate stated their club had moved away from Bath as they felt it didn’t work for them. The SBTC delegates said that the Open show worked well at the City of Birmingham gave the Open show judge an excellent entry. They would be doing the same in 2020 for both Open Shows again with City of Birmingham and Birmingham National. Although registrations are down, we still have new people showing but they are not staying. Why is this and how can the clubs address. The Veterans played a big part in holding up the breed in Band E but they were mainly absent as the Absentee report sent in by the Club Secretaries showed a high percentage, the idea was to get the Veterans at the show not just as a paper entry. EA have added a Champion Stakes class at their next Open Show to try and encourage more entries and for the judge to have hands on experience. No doubt further discussion along with ideas would be brought to the next meeting.
10.Free discussion period on the Staffordshire Bull Terrier. None as all had been discussed under Matters Brought forward.
Opinion letters – the Kennel Club seem to take no notice of what the Breed Council says even if the proposed CC judge has failed to meet the KC requirements. The Breed Council Secretary stated that when she receives the response back from the club with a NO very few answer the relevant question – Would the Club support the proposed judge if they didn’t meet criteria - Clubs need to ensure that they answer this question when responding to the BC Secretary.
The Breed Council Secretary – reminded the member clubs that their Club criteria should be the same as the Council or above but not below. This makes it difficult for B list judges to be included on the Council List
The judges resume – Judges need to ensure they complete this correctly in relation to Classes judged with dogs in attendance in those classes . Example its unlikely that a show with 5 classes and only 1 dog judged was entered in all 5 classes. Judges need to be reminded when completing these forms.
12. Date of Meetings in 2020 to be discussed to be confirmed
Helen E Reaney (Hon Secretary) - Circulated to all members on 3rd December 2019