Southern Counties SBT Society

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SOUTHERN COUNTIES
STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIER SOCIETY
Founded 1937


Welcome to the 

Southern Counties Staffordshire Bull Terrier Society website.


On this site you will find information on upcoming shows and events that the Society 

is holding and links to other clubs.

You will also find results from recent shows, seminars and health issues.

The next Society Show will be the


Members Limit Show


On Sunday 20th March 2022


Judge: Paul Sutcliffe (Pendlestaff)


Schedules will be sent to all Society Members


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Obituary – Mrs. Eileen Nicolls Life Vice President


31 December 1928 - 23 September 2021.


Eileen passed away peacefully on the 23 September 2021


Eileen joined the Society in 1949 and not shortly after in 1951 married the late Bruce Nicolls. Together Eileen & Bruce held a joint interest in the canine world for over 61 years with both serving on a number of Breed Club committee’s associated with Staffordshire Bull Terriers, Norwich and Bedlingtons.

Besides from their own and Bruce’s father’s dogs that included Emden Colorado & Brinstock Teenaglow, up until the early 1970’s she also handled dogs & bitches owned by Mrs Joan Fitch.

Eileen’s first judging appointment came in 1960 and 17 years later in 1977 she awarded CCs for the first time at the SCSBTS Championship Show. Further appointments followed including trips to Scandinavia & Holland.

For a period of 35 years, Eileen held many posts on the committee including President, Chairman, Hon. Secretary, Treasurer & Social Secretary and was very honored in 1988 to have been made a Life-Vice President of the Society. An honor that was richly deserved. Eileen could also be found in the ‘canteen’ providing refreshments for the exhibitors at shows and also organised a number of Society ‘Dinner Dances’ which were always well attended, and a good time was had by all.

As Secretary/Treasurer of the SBT Breed Council for 7 years – Eileen found this to be a challenging position as this was the early days of the Kennel Club allowing such a type of federation.

Up to a few years ago she was still a regular visitor to Society shows and was accompanied usually by Tom Scanlon who acted as her chauffer. The last SC show she attended was at Merstham and long with Tom she sat with Fred Clark and Larry Lunn reminiscing about the dogs and characters they had all known. Up to her death she was the longest surviving member of the Society and I think that anyone who knew her would agree she was a good un!!!!! and the Stafford World has lost another real stalwart of the breed.

Written by Sarah Flood (Nicolls) including excerpts from the Stafford Magazine

Obituary 


Ms Nancie Booth (Ramblestaff)


18th June 1949 - 24th August 2021


It is with sadness that I announce that the Stafford fraternity has lost another great supporter of the breed. Nancie was a long-time member of the SC society and served on the committee as Secretary and Newsletter Editor as well as other roles. Along with her partner Paul she enjoyed showing her dogs under the "Ramblestaff" affix and bred some excellent dogs. She had a great passion for promoting the breed she loved, and this was very evident at the many breed awareness days which included Discover Dogs in London that she along with her band of helpers attended. Besides from being a great supporter of the Society she was also a long-time member of the SEESBTC which she also served in various roles. Everyone who knew her will have fond memories of her and these will live long in the memory. Our deepest sympathies to Paul & Nancie’s family on their loss.




PLEASE BE AWARE!!!!


As Club Secretary I am still getting a lot of enquiries for people looking for puppies. Obviously the current situation is posing problems both for potential puppy owners and breeders alike. There is a directive from DEFRA and the Kennel Club about how breeders can get pups to new homes when they are old enough (8 weeks onwards). This applies equally to pups that are NOT Kennel Club registered. Please be aware because of travel and social distancing restrictions NO ONE can visit pups in their breeder’s homes, nor can new puppy owners travel to the breeder to collect a pup. Breeders can deliver a pup to the new owner (one pup on one journey - no dropping off one then carrying on to another property to deliver another). You may also find that breeders are unable at this time to get clinical litter screening done. That being the case I would expect reputable breeders to explain and offer to find somewhere for the new owner to get an individual pup screened at a later date after restrictions are lifted. Both sire and dam of the litter should have current (screened in the preceding year) unaffected eye certificates which you can view.

Sadly, the situation may mean that scammers take advantage of new puppy owners. Please be aware of the correct way to carry on in the present crisis.

You can read the full details here under the section for dog/cat breeders: https://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/…/advice-for-animal-rela…/…

The British Veterinary Association has now also agreed that inoculations for new pups can be carried out under strict protocol by your vet https://www.bva.co.uk/…/bva-guidance-for-veterinary-practic…

ARE YOU HOPING TO BUY A SBT PUPPY?

Ask yourself if a Staffordshire Bull Terrier is the right breed for you and your family. Do you understand the true nature of the breed? Staffords are not the right breed for everyone, they can be strong willed. You need to know, warts and all, what you are letting yourself in for. Speak to experienced owners before you decide.

  • can you afford to have a dog, taking into account not only the initial cost of purchasing the dog, but also the on-going expenses such as food, veterinary fees and canine insurance?
  • can you make a lifelong commitment to a dog? Average life span of a Stafford is 12 years.
  • is your home big enough to house a Stafford? Is your garden totally secure?
  • do you have time to exercise a dog every day? Staffords can become very naughty and destructive if they get bored or feel they aren’t getting the time they deserve. They’re a very people orientated breed and love human company.
  • how long will the dog be left at home alone? Staffords get lonely just like humans.
  • will you find time to train, groom and generally care for a Stafford? Staffords are a very clever breed but need lots of time and consistent training from puppyhood to adult to help them become well-adjusted and better behaved individuals.
  • will you be able to answer YES to these questions every day of the year? Only you can answer that but please think hard before you make your mind up.

Breed Club secretaries will know of forth coming shows where you can meet Staffords and their owners. They may know planned litters from reputable breeders. They have first-hand experience with the breed so are a good source to answer questions about the breed’s health, temperament or anything Stafford related. Breed Clubs are found nationwide so there should be one fairly local. They should be the ‘first port of call’ for anyone looking for a Stafford puppy.

Buying a pedigree Stafford should not be done ‘on the cheap’ nor should it come from a bad breeder no matter how sorry you feel for the pups. By buying there you’re condemning more pups to the same fate. If the breeders can’t sell they’ll think twice before breeding again. By going to a responsible Staffordshire Bull Terrier breeder you stand the best chance of getting a dog that will enjoy a happy and healthy life.

Beware of ads selling pups in local papers and on various dog selling sites on the internet, there are no background checks so any dodgy dealer can advertise there. Think carefully is you see any of this advertising:

  • rare blue – with more than 75% of all SBT pups registered now being blue they are clearly not rare. As blue is a genetic dilute in SBTs (it is really a washed out brindle) no reputable breeder will breed ‘blue’ to ‘blue’ as it affects the genetic diversity of the colours in the breed
  • Red Nose Staffy, Long Legged Staffy – there is only one Kennel Club registered Stafford and that is the ‘Staffordshire Bull Terrier’, the other colourful names are given to various cross breeds. You can find the Breed Standard for the Staffordshire Bull Terrier here: https://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/services/public/breed/standard.aspx?id=3080
  • rare Merle – the Merle is not genetically possible in this breed nor has it ever ever been. There is no option to have pups of this colour registered. So if you see a merle coloured Stafford ask yourself how did they manage that?
  • blue Champion stud dog – currently there has never been a blue Champion (dog or bitch) in the UK.
  • father sired 200 litters – this just means that the dog has been used at stud a lot……..another sales pitch.
  • £900 for one colour, £1200 for the ‘rare’ coloured puppies in the same litter – a reputable breeder will sell all pups at the same price regardless of colour or sex. For a well reared DNA clear and clinically health tested Stafford puppy the average price is around £900-£1,000
  • ‘can deliver’ - before getting your pup you should have had the opportunity to visit first and see the litter in their home environment with their mother.
  • don’t go for one that’s a bargain and/or dropped price because it is the last one left or the breeder has a holiday booked in a few days – that’s not the attitude of someone who cares about their puppies and where they go. Could they have also cut corners with rearing the litter?

Remember if something doesn’t seem right don’t be fooled to rush in and buy! Always give yourself time to think about making the right decision – a reputable breeder will not push you into having one of their pups. They will want to find out if you and their puppy will be well suited.

When you have found a litter consider these questions to ask the breeder before going to see them

  • are the puppies Kennel Club registered? You have no way of verifying if they are purebred if not
  • are both parents tested/hereditarily clear for L2-HGA? Don’t buy if untested
  • are both parents hereditarily clear for HC? Don’t buy if untested
  • are both parents clinically tested unaffected for PHPV/PPSC? Don’t buy if untested
  • will the litter be clinically eye screened for PHPV? Don’t buy if untested
  • are the puppies micro-chipped? From 2016 all dogs in the UK legally must be micro-chipped by the breeder
  • have they been wormed regularly? if infested they won’t thrive.
  • what are the parent’s temperaments like? Stafford temperament should be reliable; not human aggressive nor timid/nervous.
  • has the litter been reared inside? Pups should be socialised with all the hustle and bustle of family life, they get used to being handled from an early age.
  • will they have a contract? This is a legally binding document that you and the breeder sign if you both agree to the sale of the pup. Good breeders state that if you can’t keep the dog/bitch it is to be returned to them
  • are there any endorsements on the puppy? Two endorsements can be placed 1. Export pedigree not allowed – this is to stop a dog being sold on abroad for showing/breeding purposes. 2. Progeny not eligible for registration - this means you can’t breed from your dog unless the breeder lifts the endorsement. Neither of these endorsements are a bad thing, in fact many reputable breeders use them but should be able to explain their reasoning to you
  • does the breeder have all the paper work available to see? The breeder should show you the paper work and explain about health testing, the contract, endorsements placed and why when you visit
  • tell the breeder about yourself, if you’ve had a dog before, if you want a family pet or have showing or agility aspirations. It will give the breeder an idea of what you’re looking for in your pup i.e. a lively character would be more suited to an agility home where the quieter litter mate would be ideal for a young family.
  • expect questions to be asked, it’s only natural that the right homes are being sought by the breeder, just like you want the right pup. 
  • When you first meet the litter, you may be met by a rabble of over enthusiastic little characters with sharp teeth, fighting for attention and dangling off your clothes. Or they may have just been fed and are now a pile of sleepyheads that refuse to wake up. What you need to look out for: see them with their mother. If dad doesn’t live there, which is likely, ask for a photo and health information
    • plump pups with clean, shiny coats, free from dirt, dandruff, fleas and not patchy.
    • If they’re awake then bright, clear, alert eyes. Pups may get ‘sleep’ in their eyes when they have just woken up but shouldn’t have any green discharge or weepy eyes.
    • clean ears that don’t smell. Pups that have been kept in a clean environment shouldn’t suffer from dirty or infected ears.
    • check there is no mess or wet underneath or down back legs as this could indicate runny stools and possibly underlying illness, disease or a case of worms.
    • is the bedding and play area clean with plenty of natural light? Bedding should be changed regularly; pups shouldn’t be playing in yesterday’s mess.
    • Pups won’t thrive if living in filth or with parasites. If you buy from someone that would keep them like that you are condoning their actions; buying a pup from them will condemn more pups to be bred in those awful conditions and the bitch to be used as a money making machine
    • At this stage when you go to visit pups you should ask to see documentary evidence of Kennel Club registration and health certificates – it is the opportunity for you to talk this through with the breeder. Don’t take any excuses for breeding stock not having known status for HC, L-2-HGA, PHPV and PPSC – all reputable breeders will do these tests as a minimum
    • When you pick your puppy up, he/she should leave the breeder with:signed Kennel Club registration document which you complete and post or register online with the KC to transfer the pup to your name
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